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« on: November 26, 2008, 12:27:41 PM »

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http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/video_streaming.php

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http://www.zeenews.com/nation/2008-11-26/486700news.html

Mumbai on high alert after terror attack
Zeenews Bureau


Mumbai, Nov 26: Indiscriminate firing and blasts in different parts of South Mumbai left 15 people dead on Wednesday night. Police sources are putting down the attacks as an act of terror. All the blasts have taken place in the vicnity of posh hotels.

The firing has taken places at the Chattrapati Shivaji Terminus (CST) railways station, outside Café Leopold in Colaba, Nariman point and outside the Taj and the Tridient, formely Oberoi hotel. Indiscriminate firing was reported from the Taj hotel, with sources saying that 4 terrorists could be holed up inside.

Ten people have been killed in firing at Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus (CST) station, say police.

Police sources said two groups of terrorists came to CST area with one of them entering the station and another setting off grenades outside Metro cinema near the station.

Armed with AK-47 rifles and grenades, the terrorists entered the passenger hall of crowded Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus (CST) railway station and opened fire and threw a grenade killing two to three persons, Mumbai General Railway Police Commissioner A K Sharma said. He did not give details.

Two explosions also went off outside CST and eyewitnesses reported they heard gunshots outside the railway station building.

The Trident hotel lobby has caught fire.

Some people have been injured in the firing and have been taken to a nearby hospital in police vans and ambulance.

Director General of Police A N Roy said at least two terrorists were holed up inside the Trident Hotel where firing was on.

The anti terror squad led by its chief Hemant Karkare, has entered Oberoi.

Firing was also reported at Cama Hospital in south Mumbai.

A blast was reported in a taxi under a flyover in suburban Vile Parle.

Meanwhile, Railway authorities have stopped trains going to CST in view of the firing incidents. Extra forces have also been rushed to the station.

Blasts have been reported from Majhgoan and Vile Parley, outside the BMC office, Nariman house and outside Centaur hotel and at Colaba. All the five deaths have been reported from Vile Parley.

The attack could be a possible act of terror, police say.

High alert has been sounded in Mumbai, and the police has asked the public to stay indoors.
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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2008, 12:47:08 PM »

These are all places that we as tourists went to two years ago. While I was watching the video, shootings continued.
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2008, 01:32:31 PM »

Fox News says there are now shootings at the Marriott, and authorities feel that American and British tourists are being targeted. Also, there are reports that hostages have been taken at the Taj and Oberoi hotels.
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2008, 01:46:23 PM »

How sad.

CNN.com is saying 18 people were killed, whereas the timesofindia.com says 80 are dead and over 250 injured. 
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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2008, 03:13:26 PM »

This is the first time I've heard about a terror attack where tourists were targeted.  Not that this is more awful than their targeting anyone else.   I plan to go look at IndiaMike when I can, the site for travellers to India, to see what people there are saying.



NY Tiimes at about 4 pm

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-AS-India-Shooting.html?_r=1&hp=&pagewanted=print

November 26, 2008
At Least 40 Dead in India in Coordinated Attacks
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Filed at 3:34 p.m. ET

MUMBAI, India (AP) -- Teams of heavily armed gunmen stormed luxury hotels, a popular tourist attraction and a crowded train station in at least seven attacks in India's financial capital, killing at least 78 people and wounding at least 200, officials said Thursday.

The gunmen were specifically targeting Britons and Americans, media reports said, and may be holding hostages.

The gunmen also attacked police headquarters in south Mumbai, the area where most of the attacks, which began late Wednesday and continued into Thursday morning, took place.

''We are under fire, there is shooting at the gate,'' said constable A. Shetti by phone from police headquarters.

Hours after the first attacks, A.N. Roy, a senior police officer, said police continued to battle the gunmen.

''The terrorists have used automatic weapons and in some places grenades have been lobbed, the encounters are still going on and we are trying to overpower them,'' Roy said.

Johnny Joseph, chief secretary for Maharashtra state, of which Mumbai is the capital, said 78 people had been killed and 200 had been injured.

The motive for the attacks was not immediately clear but Mumbai has frequently been targeted in terror attacks, often blamed on Muslim militants, including a series of blasts in July 2007 that killed 187 people.

Gunmen opened fire on two of the city's best known luxury hotels, the Taj Mahal and the Oberoi. They also attacked the crowded Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus station in southern Mumbai and Leopold's restaurant, a Mumbai landmark.

A British restaurant-goer at the Oberoi told Sky News television that the attackers were singling out Britons and Americans.

Alex Chamberlain said a gunman, a young man of 22 or 23, ushered 30 or 40 people from the restaurant into a stairway and ordered everyone to put up their hands.

''They were talking about British and Americans specifically. There was an Italian guy, who, you know, they said: 'Where are you from?'' and he said he's from Italy and they said 'fine' and they left him alone. And I thought: 'Fine, they're going to shoot me if they ask me anything -- and thank God they didn't,'' he said.

Chamberlain said the gunman spoke in Hindi or Urdu.

He managed to slip away from the group as they were forced to walk up the stairs, but said most of the group was still being kept hostage.

Early Thursday morning, several European lawmakers were among those still barricaded inside the Taj, a century-old seaside hotel complex and one of the city's best-known destinations.

''I was in the main lobby and there was all of a sudden a lot of firing outside,'' said Sajjad Karim, part of a delegation of European lawmakers visiting Mumbai ahead of a forthcoming EU-India summit. He turned to get away ''and all of a sudden another gunmen appeared in front of us, carrying machine gun-type weapons. And he just started firing at us ... I just turned and ran in the opposite direction,'' he told The Associated Press over his mobile phone.

Hours later, he remained holed up in a hotel restaurant, unsure if the incident was over, and whether it was safe to come out.

At the Oberoi, police officer P.I. Patil said shots had been fired inside and the hotel had been cordoned off. He would not give any other details.

The Press Trust of India news agency quoted Mumbai General Railway Police Commissioner A.K. Sharma as saying that several men armed with rifles and grenades were holed up in the train station.

Leopold's restaurant was riddled with bullet holes and there were blood stains on the floor and shoes left by fleeing customers, according to an Associated Press reporter at the scene.

At least 25 people had been brought to the G.T. Hospital near the shootings, said hospital official Yogesh Pandey.

India has been wracked by deadly bomb attacks in recent years, which police blame on Muslim militants intent on destabilizing this largely Hindu country. Since October 2005, nearly 700 people have died in the bombings. And since May a militant group calling itself the Indian Mujahideen had taken credit for a string of blasts that have killed more than 130.

The most recent was in September when a series of explosions struck a park and crowded shopping areas in the capital, New Delhi, killing 21 people and wounding about 100 others.

Mumbai has been hit repeatedly by terror attacks since March 1993, when Muslim underworld figures tied to Pakistani militants allegedly carried out a series of bombings on Mumbai's stock exchange, trains, hotels and gas stations. Authorities say those attacks, which killed 257 people and wounded more than 1,100, were carried out to avenge the deaths of hundreds of Muslims in religious riots which had swept India.

Ten years later, in 2003, 52 people were killed in Mumbai bombings blamed on Muslim militants and in July 2007 a series of seven blasts ripped through railway trains and commuter rail stations. At least 187 died in those attacks.

Relations between Hindus, who make up more than 80 percent of India's population, and Muslims, who make up about 14 percent, have been relatively peaceful since British-ruled India was split into independent India and Pakistan in 1947. But there have been sporadic bouts of violence.
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2008, 03:29:04 PM »

I'm very shocked about this news! Not again! How much more can India take... Cry

I'm actually a little disappointed by the bias of the media. There have been many big terrorist attacks in the past in India, with mainly locals as targets. These get a short mention in the news and then it's off to the next news item. But since it's a tourist area this time we get full coverage...

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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2008, 03:50:31 PM »

How sad this is. I'm listening and watching Indian news and The Taj is on fire (the top floor) .
I will catch up and report back.
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2008, 03:58:55 PM »

Decaan Mujahhadeen is claiming responsibility. The Indian Army has been called.  The Cheif  Anti Terrorist official has been killed.
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2008, 04:17:33 PM »



Live feed also available via NDTV, here: http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/video/video_live.aspx?id=0
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2008, 04:20:47 PM »

I´ve been watching CNN IBN for about two hours now and I just can´t believe it. I´ve been to all these places. I love this city. My friends are there.
 How can someone possibly do something like that??
Latest news is that while gunfire continues they´ve started rescuing people from the Taj.
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2008, 05:01:22 PM »

This is horrible. It's such a great city and it makes me so sad that this keeps happening again and again. I keep watching the live feed and I have to keep turning it off.  Cry
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2008, 05:20:51 PM »

Here is a Twitter thread about it, very up to date.

http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23Mumbai

Also on Indiamike there are people posting very frequently from Bombay.

Re: the media makes more of it if it is a tourist area - maybe so, but from my point of view it is an especially big deal if foreign tourists are intentionally being held hostage - it is an international incident if they succeed in holding people, foreign governments, like our own in the US, will have to get pulled in.

This horror is occurring in at least 10 sites in Bombay.  All of us who've been there have been to those places.
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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2008, 05:42:20 PM »

I'm finding the twitter feed to be an incredibly comprehensive source of news.  They are saying that the Ramada and Marriott in Juhu has also been attacked.  The sheer range of this astonishes me.  It's horrible. 

Google map of attacks here.

I think most people who have ever visited Mumbai know and recognize and have visited at least some of these places.  Leopold's was the place we went to drink when I was a naughty sixteen year old kicking up my heels in Colaba.  I've been to a wedding at the Marriott, drinks at the Taj, brunch at the Oberoi.  Watched movies at the Metro. Have a good friend who lives on Nepean Sea Road, where they've reported blasts.  It's just... horrifying.
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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2008, 05:45:30 PM »

Re: the media makes more of it if it is a tourist area - maybe so, but from my point of view it is an especially big deal if foreign tourists are intentionally being held hostage - it is an international incident if they succeed in holding people, foreign governments, like our own in the US, will have to get pulled in.


True. Several members of the European Parliament are currently in Mumbai and staying in the Taj. At least one of them is still reported missing, she may have been taken as a hostage after she sent a SMS to the German Embassy asking for help. This is the kind of news that will make headlines all over Europe, and alert the foreign governments.

What a mess it all is, and how terribly sad. I've been to those places, too, and know lots of people in Mumbai; I can only hope all of them are safe.
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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2008, 05:53:16 PM »

Along with Twitter, this thread at IndiaMike is very good.  People posting who are in India, seeing things on TV etc.  http://www.indiamike.com/india/mumbai-bombay-f22/breaking-news-gun-attacks-in-mumbai-t67098/

Please post anything you find out for sure, including whether there is confirmation about attacks at Juhu.

Update, the trains are running again.
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« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2008, 05:59:35 PM »

INBlive confirmed that there were attacks at the Juhu Ramada, but the situation is now "under control."

There's a "hostage situation" at Cama Hospital.
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« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2008, 06:05:54 PM »

NDTV is saying 5 terrorists are dead and hostages are being held at Cama Hospital and the Taj. Death toll was something like 80 last time I saw, with more than 100 injured.

god, I can't believe people do this stuff...why would they? Cry It's just awful
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« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2008, 06:08:33 PM »

This Wikipedia page is good, as it summarizes news and is promptly updated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/26_November_2008_Mumbai_attacks
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« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2008, 06:11:08 PM »

Like many, I can't bear to see the footage. And like many, I was in so many of those places just last year, around Diwali.

And to make it worse, I have a friend there who might be giving me the silent treatment right now due to various reasons - I just hope I get a confirmation that she's doing okay.
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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2008, 06:33:27 PM »

I'm down with a flu and posting sporadically. Here's an interesting Twitter feed with the latest updates.
http://twitter.com/BreakingNewsOn

The current post reports 200 killed.  Cry
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« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2008, 06:40:28 PM »

Someone on Twitter keeps posting the "200 dead" thing, but news sources do not use this number.  OTOH I will not be surprised if numbers grow quite a bit larger. 

Hotel situations and fires are not under control.  It is so unbelievable if those places are burning up.

I am waiting for cogent hostage information, who they are holding, what they want.  Though I would rather learn they are holding no one.

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« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2008, 08:31:44 PM »

Omg sooo sad Sad I was sooo shocked to hear about this.  Cry
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« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2008, 09:07:14 PM »

I'm watching FOX news now. They say that they doubt this is the end of it. Considering that the hostile, Middle-Eastern countries are their neighbors, and a big change has occurred in the relationship between India and those nations, experts are sure that this will not be the only attack India sees in the coming months.

Do you guys think that any celebrities are currently trapped in the Taj Hotel?
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« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2008, 09:10:10 PM »

I have  been watching NDTV for hours  while cooking for tomorrow. They have been talking on cell phones with people trapped in the Taj.
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« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2008, 09:18:03 PM »

From what I've been reading everywhere, FOX isn't the place to go for your info or analysis of this situation, that is what Indians all over the Internet are saying.

And - someone watching other channels - any word yet on how the US is getting involved?  I hope the response isn't going to be on GW Bush's usual disaster-response timetable.  I've seen his statement, and Obama's which preceded it.
Now what?    I am sure no one knows, but when they have something to say I hope someone will post.

Have also read local reports that people who got out of the Taj said Indian police were not doing anything to help those trapped.

Have the Indian police ever handled anything like this?  I think of the Lokhandwala story, where they held shootouts at an apartment buiding.  I understand this situation is a shootout situation, but does anybody know any positive stories of their managing something tricky in a good way?

Today is one of the few days I wish I had cable TV.
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