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srkitalianfan
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Learning tamil
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January 24, 2005, 12:43:08 PM »
Besides Hindi I'm starting to learn a bit of Tamil and I thought that maybe it could be interesting to have a topic where we can share things about this language.
Well I'll start with a couple of requests for words translation. How do you say in Tamil
Hello
Welcome
My name is...
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James
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Re: Learning tamil
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January 24, 2005, 01:28:59 PM »
Hello is, "vaNNakkam".
If you can read devanagri, I believe it would look like this: वण्णक्कम
The only other Tamil phrase I know is, "I don't know".
I don't know if this is by gender, but I presume so. In that case, this would be a man speaking: enaka teriyaada
(final 'a's pronounced)
एनक तेरियाद
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Re: Learning tamil
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January 24, 2005, 02:18:06 PM »
palacerani would know the best but I believe
My name is : Yenna pair ..... :
येन्न पेर .....
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Re: Learning tamil
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January 24, 2005, 04:52:17 PM »
Quote from: srkitalianfan on January 24, 2005, 12:43:08 PM
Besides Hindi I'm starting to learn a bit of Tamil and I thought that maybe it could be interesting to have a topic where we can share things about this language.
Well I'll start with a couple of requests for words translation. How do you say in Tamil
Hello
Welcome
My name is...
वनक्कम् - vannakam - welcome
एन्नोड पेर् - ennode peru - my name is
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palacerani
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Re: Learning tamil
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January 24, 2005, 04:55:16 PM »
Quote from: Brindavani on January 24, 2005, 02:18:06 PM
palacerani would know the best but I believe
My name is : Yenna pair ..... :
येन्न पेर .....
That means what name? for what's your name it's
onge paer ennai - ओंग पेर एन्नै?
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srkitalianfan
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Re: Learning tamil
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January 25, 2005, 07:27:29 PM »
As far as I know there are not that many books for learning tamil, many don't give enough explanation about the alphabet etc. So I'm trying to find resources of what there's out there at bookstores or the web.
Here's a nice website with lessons online, grammar and writing exercises
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/plc/tamilweb/tamil.htm
I'll add more as I find them
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Re: Learning tamil
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January 26, 2005, 07:48:31 AM »
The
Tamil Script Learners Manual
is a great resource for learning the script. It's a freely downloadable PDF file and has two or three hundred pages explaining the alphabet, how to write and pronounce all the letters, and with many exercises. Highly recommended.
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Daniel
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Re: Learning tamil
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January 26, 2005, 11:16:29 AM »
Oh, I learned the script from the above link, and its great. In fact, the author shared his lunch with me last december
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Re: Learning tamil
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January 26, 2005, 05:56:09 PM »
I just ordered myself 'Little Lifco English-Tamil dictionary: Script' by C Chettiar, is it any good?
I also bought second hand 'A Tamil Prose Reader' Cambidge University Press 1971, now how silly is that
when I don't even know the script yet, but it was too tempting and it was only one euro.
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Daniel
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Re: Learning tamil
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January 29, 2005, 01:46:16 AM »
Are the aspirated consonants ध घ झ् etc. native to tamil or any other dravidian language for that matter, or are they only imports from sanskrit?
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Re: Learning tamil
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January 30, 2005, 12:13:42 AM »
When transliterated, how is it supposed to be pronounced - as in "vaNNakkam"? What kind of sound or pronounciation do the double capitalized N's express?
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Re: Learning tamil
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January 30, 2005, 02:54:22 AM »
I believe it is a retroflex N: ण in hindi script, ண் in tamil, I believe.
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Bewakoof aur chutiya mein dhaage barabar ka farak hota hai. Dhage ke henge bewakoof aur hunge, chutiya. Dhaga khench lo to kaun hai bewakoof kaun hai chutiya, carore rupiye ka prashan hai bhaiya.
srkitalianfan
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February 03, 2005, 02:51:36 PM »
I still have huge problems with sounds but I'm working hard on them...
and all of a sudden I realised that Tamil has cases! Oh well better than tone languages though...so the first case I came across is the genitive-possessive.
It is made by adding ooda at the end of a word, I'll add other cases later
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Re: Learning tamil
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May 22, 2005, 04:30:35 PM »
The University of Pennslavania has a fairly good introduction to Tamil website. The home page is here:
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/plc/tamilweb/
...and there are preliminary lessons including sample sounds here:
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/plc/tamilweb/lessons/lessons.html
Incidently, srkitalianfan, the link you provided does not work
, so I assume they changed the address to the one above. Hope this proves useful to people.
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Re: Learning tamil
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September 13, 2005, 08:20:17 PM »
Just a quick question, what does "Penne" mean? Thanks in advance
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Re: Learning tamil
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September 13, 2005, 08:37:34 PM »
Quote from: priyachupke77 on September 13, 2005, 08:20:17 PM
Just a quick question, what does "Penne" mean? Thanks in advance
Girl.
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Re: Learning tamil
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September 13, 2005, 08:38:04 PM »
Quote from: priyachupke77 on September 13, 2005, 08:20:17 PM
Just a quick question, what does "Penne" mean? Thanks in advance
I shouldn't be answering this, but doesn't it mean 'girl'?
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Re: Learning tamil
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September 13, 2005, 08:38:52 PM »
Meenkaran, in Malayalam what is the difference between 'Penn" and "Penn Kutti"? I feel like I hear the latter more.
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Re: Learning tamil
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September 13, 2005, 08:43:57 PM »
Quote from: crazyone on September 13, 2005, 08:38:52 PM
Meenkaran, in Malayalam what is the difference between 'Penn" and "Penn Kutti"? I feel like I hear the latter more.
Penkutti is like a more formal way of saying it. Literally it means small-girl. Pennu is more informal and casual.
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Re: Learning tamil
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September 13, 2005, 11:58:05 PM »
So its not a kind of pasta?
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Re: Learning tamil
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September 14, 2005, 12:41:25 AM »
Quote from: Daniel on September 13, 2005, 11:58:05 PM
So its not a kind of pasta?
no. penkutty means little girl or baby girl, penn means girl. Penn is also used in Tamil.
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Re: Learning tamil
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September 14, 2005, 08:03:23 PM »
Quote from: palacerani on September 14, 2005, 12:41:25 AM
Quote from: Daniel on September 13, 2005, 11:58:05 PM
So its not a kind of pasta?
no. penkutty means little girl or baby girl, penn means girl. Penn is also used in Tamil.
Thank you, everybody who responded to my question. I was telling a friend about the song "Penne En Penne" and we were wondering what "Penne En Penne" meant. Thanks!
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Re: Learning tamil
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September 15, 2005, 12:25:57 AM »
Quote from: priyachupke77 on September 14, 2005, 08:03:23 PM
Quote from: palacerani on September 14, 2005, 12:41:25 AM
Quote from: Daniel on September 13, 2005, 11:58:05 PM
So its not a kind of pasta?
no. penkutty means little girl or baby girl, penn means girl. Penn is also used in Tamil.
Thank you, everybody who responded to my question. I was telling a friend about the song "Penne En Penne" and we were wondering what "Penne En Penne" meant. Thanks!
Penn is girl. Penne means oh girl! like you're calling her. so penne en penne means oh girl, my girl. Not oh pasta, my pasta.
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Re: Learning tamil
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Quote from: Daniel on September 13, 2005, 11:58:05 PM
So its not a kind of pasta?
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Re: Learning tamil
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September 15, 2005, 06:04:21 PM »
Quote from: palacerani on September 15, 2005, 12:25:57 AM
Quote from: priyachupke77 on September 14, 2005, 08:03:23 PM
Quote from: palacerani on September 14, 2005, 12:41:25 AM
Quote from: Daniel on September 13, 2005, 11:58:05 PM
So its not a kind of pasta?
no. penkutty means little girl or baby girl, penn means girl. Penn is also used in Tamil.
Thank you, everybody who responded to my question. I was telling a friend about the song "Penne En Penne" and we were wondering what "Penne En Penne" meant. Thanks!
Penn is girl. Penne means oh girl! like you're calling her. so penne en penne means oh girl, my girl. Not oh pasta, my pasta.
Thank you! I had figured it wasn't a type of pasta ;-)
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