What do you hate about K3G and KHNH?

[Dil Bert]

Difficulty: No posts about how you kinda like them, or thought they were "eh" or whatever.  Post only about things you hate about the films.

[Deewani_Aurat]

Hmm can't wait to see Jhana's essay on this...

For me i hate the emotional manipulation and blatent 'telling' of how one is supposed to feel and act with their family and country in K3G.  Its too over the top for me and i kind of resent feeling like im a bad person cause im not the way they shove down your throat.  - I also hate the England bits, such crap.

KHNH i only disliked the over emotionalness - Jhana will be able to expand on this bit better.

[jamesronsson]

KHNH was far too utterly forgettable and mediocre to hate, but there were a couple of things that might qualify in K3G - KJ's usual cloying family fetish, and the utterly ghastly anglophobe scenes, culminating in the anthem.

[Gulbahaar]

Haven't seen K3G yet.  It's on my list.

Overall I liked KHNH, but there were elements that annoyed me hugely.

- The fact that SRK was in nearly every single frame of the movie and his character (Aman) had his nose in everyone's business. When Naina (or was it Rohit?) calls Naina's family home to announce that they have become engaged, you'd think it would be Naina's mother who would take the phone first.  But no,  it's Aman.  You'd think that maybe someone else could have found out the truth behind the parentage of Naina's little sister (can't remember her name), but no, it's Aman.  It's Aman who saves the family business.  It's Aman who seems to help couples get together.  After a while, I began to think that no one in New York could do anything without Aman's help.  I like SRK, but come on!  There are limits.

-  The whole engagement scene annoyed me.  Why did they need a choir of people in tacky gold dresses?

-  Was it really necessary to the plot for Naina's grandmother be so cruel to her little sister?

That's all I can think of.

[apsara]

... i hate the emotional manipulation and blatent 'telling' of how one is supposed to feel...

Thanks, Dil Bert!
 
Oh good, I've been waiting for the I-loathe-Karan thread!
Emotional manipulation, tear jerker sentimentality, 2nd rate Lifetime-Victim-TV, shallow, suger-coated superficial emotions...
Gag... K3G was the beginning of an endless slide down the slippery slope of his "formula" flicks till it reached the unbelievably
fake phoney boring and insulting SKANK!
 
Give me Rituparno Ghosh, Vishal Bhardwaj, Mani Ratnam and Satyajit Ray.
Karan has become India's Aaron Spelling.

[jamesronsson]

... i hate the emotional manipulation and blatent 'telling' of how one is supposed to feel...

Thanks, Dil Bert!
 
Oh good, I've been waiting for the I-loathe-Karan thread!
Emotional manipulation, tear jerker sentimentality, 2nd rate Lifetime-Victim-TV, shallow, suger-coated superficial emotions...
Gag... K3G was the beginning of an endless slide down the slippery slope of his "formula" flicks till it reached the unbelievably
fake phoney boring and insulting SKANK!

While I agree with all of the above, I still love the songs in K3G, and the great chemistry, both pre-and-post shaadi between SRK and Kajol. I also feel that 

Emotional manipulation, tear jerker sentimentality, 2nd rate Lifetime-Victim-TV, shallow, suger-coated superficial emotions.

applies much more strongly to Baghban, one of the few BW movies I would describe as both vile and evil.

[asante]

K3G
I hated the fact that both SRK & Hrithik happened to win the cricket match or whatever match it was without dificulty and the fact that Kajol was being very rude to her nice British neighbour.
But that's Karan Johar for you!!! always portraying Goras as obtuse people 

I also didn't like the whole Maande Matharan (*spelling*) song where Hrithik is introduced in London

[apsara]

While I agree with all of the above, I still love the songs in K3G, and the great chemistry,
both pre-and-post shaadi between SRK and Kajol.

I do agree that there were some good things about K3G.
However it set the template for a formula - creativity based in cash-cow thinking that went from sentimental to absurd to inane.
But who cares as long as it makes money?
 

[Prem Rogue]

K3G was like a parody of Hindi films, except that a lot people take it seriously    Forget about pulling heartstrings, it yanks at heartropes! (Does that even make any sense?)  The emotions feel phony and calculated.  Just when I thought it couldn't get worse, Karan Johar introduces some weird OTT patriotic stuff.

I actually liked KHNH better, but I have a feeling that if I saw it again it would fall apart for me.  Never mind that SRK has a heart condition and still manages to dance.  I didn't like "It's Time to Disco."  Who uses the word "disco" without irony in this day and age?

SRK bothered me about both films.  Terrible performances.

[Bollycouch]

KHNH
I hated Preity shrieking. But that goes for any of her shrieking, like her shrieking in a similar fashion (suspended in the air) in Veer Zaara.

 

[Deewani_Aurat]

K3G was like a parody of Hindi films, except that a lot people take it seriously    Forget about pulling heartstrings, it yanks at heartropes! (Does that even make any sense?)  The emotions feel phony and calculated.  Just when I thought it couldn't get worse, Karan Johar introduces some weird OTT patriotic stuff.

 I didn't like "It's Time to Disco."  Who uses the word "disco" without irony in this day and age?

The first paragraph is exactly how i feel aswell Prem Rogue - also use of words with the exaggeration on heart strings

I liked It's Time To Disco - but hated it first 3 times i saw it.  Its always funny in bollywood when they say 'yeah lets go to the discoteque or disco' i always think 'yeah lets find a timemachine and go to the disco'...Its probably just what they call 'clubs' in India...Not necessarily the disco dancing, coke sniffing, epileptic fit lights from the 70s....

[filmifan]

the main offense for me - K3G, all the Kareena and Hrithik college scenes. hurray for the skip function on DVD remotes.

[Poonam]

KHNH - The grandmother accepting little Gia only after discovering she's the dead son's (illegitimate) offspring. Huh!What was K Jo thinking of?

SRK running through Manhattan, post heart-attack. The only reason I tolerate it is that...he runs so beautifully!

Not the best of films but I'm sentimental about KHNH because for me it marked my 'Return to Bollywood'...after something like 10 years. Loved, loved, loved the snappy split-screen intros, the very urban humour all through and SRK's Yes-I'm-OTT- And-So-Bloddy-What act. AND the death scene ("Not yet, idiot!")


K3G : The Scottish caste with 'haveli'-style interiors.
Kareena's tiny clothes and schizophrenic switching from Miss Attitude to Miss I-Love-My-India.
All the college scenes.

The Kajol-SRK romance saved this movie for me.

[Vijay_UK]

I LOVE K3G but thats not what the threads about so things i didn't like:

- The 6th sense - i mean every mother loves her son loads but Jaya had a 6th sense! They were kind of freaky if you ask me.

- Poo - Being a Londoner i KNOW if someone here had a nickname of 'Poo' which as most of you know is 'Sh*t' the amount of humiliation would drive them crazy. But in this film Kareena is the 'cheerleader' type everyone likes.

Thats all. Loved everything else.

About KHNH:

Loved everything except the story, didn't grip me at all.

[malami]

about k3g:
kareena´s outfits(i swear i´ve seen handkerchiefs larger than her tops),
wobbly kinda crying by srk- that overall trembling he did was waaay too much for me
thunders used to ephasise every word uttered by bigB
nasty attitude towards the british by kajol
the raichand mansion-though it was more like wtf moment for me so i don´t know...
´my husband is not a god`as an extreme example of a woman standing up against her husband. the guy is responsible for breaking up the family and she tells him he´s not god?! ´hit him, yell at him, blackmail him`is what goes through my head every time i see it.
ending of the movie that was long enough to stand on its own as a film.

hmm, i start to wonder how come i fell in love with bollywood by watching this as my first movie...

khnh:
grandma accepting gia only after she finds out she´s her granddaughter
srk´s introduction as a ´guardian angel´. i mean,we all know who is karan´s favorite actor, but come ON!
the gospel choir during ´preety woman`

i´m not sure if it counts, but i really hate the fact that nikhil/karan edited out the scene between srk and jaya when he admits he´s scared of death. i saw it and even without subtitles it just gripped me.one of the best scenes in the movie. wonder why it went out. didn´t match the final storyline?

[Cashie]

Things I hated about KHNH:
1) Everyone seemed to be shouting a lot, especially Naina
2) Naina nagging her perfectly nice-looking friend about losing weight and explaining that otherwise she'd never get a boyfriend
3) Thunderclaps and dramatic camera work telling me that 'someone very special', possibly even an angel, was about to arrive - ie Aman moving in next door  - whilst Naina and family offer up their woes in prayer [and then 4) that super special someone turning out to look quite odd but for some unfathomable reason, Naina preferring him to the gorgeous Rohit!]
5) The outfits in the Time to disco song - 'tacky' doesn't adequately cover it - actually very little in the scene was adequately covered
6) The hammy scene just before the intermission where Aman deflects Naina's confession of love by pretending to be married already and then after she's gone, declaring to his mother something along the lines of 'How can I accept love when my heart doesn't work properly'. I had never come across acting and dialogue quite like this before and was pretty sure I never wanted to again.

However, although I can remember these impressions quite clearly, I can't really remember much of the actual film, so I'm not sure any more if they are justified. It was my very first BW film and I must revisit it again sometime.

Can't do K3G because I didn't hate anything about it, just a few 'meh' points - and although most of Kajol's anti-English sentiment seemed unfair, I felt the neighbour got what she deserved - she was obnoxiously trying to smarm her way into avoiding her own share of the dreaded school run and had obviously done it loads of times before. But perhaps I only feel this way because I feel I have personally encountered her ilk before!

[paok]

Overall I liked KHNH, but there were elements that annoyed me hugely.

- The fact that SRK was in nearly every single frame of the movie and his character (Aman) had his nose in everyone's business.

But that is something srk does in all his films. How can he possibly go against his nature?

[jhana]

Hmm can't wait to see Jhana's essay on this...

If I write an essay on something I hate, I at least expect a degree qualification at the end of it.

KHNH is simple - I hate all of it.

K3G... if I can regard it as a parody, its just about OK.  But since KJo didn't intend to make a parody, I find it vaguely disturbing too.

Things I really dislike/hate about the film:
- "vande mataram".
- the national anthem at the school.
- this film was supposed to be set in London?! that's certainly not the London I know.  and some people have told me this is how some people in India see London as being.
- Jaya The Carpet.
- Suraj Hua Maddham.  some people find it hot, I think it borders on sleaze.
- Kajol and the British neighbour, again... the two characters were vulgar but Anjali insulting someone in a language they didn't understand was just completely unacceptable and didn't make me like her character one bit.
- the cockney teacher in an exclusive Public School. er, w. t. f.

[rangeela chandni]

I hated it that they ended so fast!

[Deewani_Aurat]

I hated it that they ended so fast!

hahahaha sneaky sneaky!

[Deewani_Aurat]

Things I really dislike/hate about the film:
- "vande mataram".
- the national anthem at the school.
- this film was supposed to be set in London?! that's certainly not the London I know.  and some people have told me this is how some people in India see London as being.
- Jaya The Carpet.
- Suraj Hua Maddham.  some people find it hot, I think it borders on sleaze.
- Kajol and the British neighbour, again... the two characters were vulgar but Anjali insulting someone in a language they didn't understand was just completely unacceptable and didn't make me like her character one bit.
- the cockney teacher in an exclusive Public School. er, w. t. f.

Ok i can't remember the movie that much so what do u mean by the vande mataram and suraj hua maddham stuff (was that the Hrithik/Kareena song?)...

Yeah i found that british neighbour thing rude aswell...I don't see how its supposed to be funny, if they are so bloody annoying and mean why come all the way to london...It's like london is crap for this, British people are boring and stuck up, india is the greatest - not once do they say anything nice about london do they?  That was my problem with Ab Ab Laut Chalen, it made me so angry how they talked about americans - i perticularly don't love americans or anything but i thought it was totally rude and over the top untrue...

When you say the film was supposed to be set in london and its not the london you know, how is it different like what are the main differences...

[mainhoonemily]

Nothing.  "Hate" is too strong a word to use about a few hours of mindless entertainment.  Besides, I didn't see anything wrong with either of them anyway.  There are a few scenes I get tired of the second or third time around, but nothing I feel strongly enough about to say I hate it.

[Dil Bert]

I hated it that they ended so fast!

Nothing.  "Hate" is too strong a word to use about a few hours of mindless entertainment.  Besides, I didn't see anything wrong with either of them anyway.  There are a few scenes I get tired of the second or third time around, but nothing I feel strongly enough about to say I hate it.

C'mon folks, you don't want to vanish into the
THE HALL OF PEOPLE WHO CAN'T FOLLOW SIMPLE INSTRUCTIONS

[Dil Bert]

Oh, please!  You don't scare me!  I survived the Hall of Shame, didn't I? 

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[filmifan]

Ok i can't remember the movie that much so what do u mean by the vande mataram and suraj hua maddham stuff (was that the Hrithik/Kareena song?)...

Yeah i found that british neighbour thing rude aswell...I don't see how its supposed to be funny, if they are so bloody annoying and mean why come all the way to london...It's like london is crap for this, British people are boring and stuck up, india is the greatest - not once do they say anything nice about london do they?  That was my problem with Ab Ab Laut Chalen, it made me so angry how they talked about americans - i perticularly don't love americans or anything but i thought it was totally rude and over the top untrue...

Suraj Hua Madham was the Kajol/SRK song in Egypt.

i remember Vande Mataram being used when Hrithik is introduced as arriving in London. i think it was used in other parts as background score too, wasn't it? anyway, it's a national song of India, controversial in itself for some due to religious reasons. but alot of folks had problems with KJ using both it and the national anthem in K3G.

one of my friends got reaaally ticked off at how Kajol's character acted toward the British. it made her express the time old "if you don't like it, move back to the country you came from."