Black Buck case

[wannabe]

I am posting this in the general Masala section rather than the Salman Khan thread, because this article lists all the actors who are involved in the case (the first time I've found the actual names, rather than "Salman Khan and five others" -- the fifth one is actor Satish Shah, whom they forgot to include here.)

http://news.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=244922&cat=India

Jodhpur black buck case hearing on tomorrow
Jodhpur | February 09, 2006 8:40:37 PM IST
 
Charges against five Bollywood actors are expected to be fixed in the controversial and much publicised black buck case involving actor Salman Khan in a local court tomorrow.

The case hearing were to take place at Jodhpur judicial magistrate's Dalpatsingh Rajpurohit's court today but it was postponed due to a holiday on account of Muharram.

Salman alongwith other actors Saif Ali Khan, Tabu, Sonali Bendre and Neelam have been implicated in the case for allegedly killing a black buck in Kakani village in Luni district on October 1-2 in 1998.

The actors were in Jodhpur for the shooting of the film 'Hum Saath Saath Hain' during that time.

The forest department has prepared a list of 51 witnesses against the accused but they have been able to present only four witnesses till now.

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[tabula rasa]

but that was already kinda known, wannabe. it was during the shoot for hum saath saath hain. there were full pics of tabu and neelam very distressed in a police vehicle and everything.

[wannabe]

Yeah, it was "kind of" known, sree, that the other four were involved at the beginning (it took me over two years of hearing/reading about this case to realize that Salman was not the only one involved even then), but I have never seen anyone else named with respect to the case itself.  Every time I saw Salman's name in the media, it was always followed by the obligatory list of all his wrong doings, and the black buck case was always listed as his problem alone.  I got the distinct impression that nobody else was charged (even if that didn't  make sense, as all of them participated in the hunt), as all the reporting on the case and trials always referred to "Salman Khan and others".  It's only a few months ago that Satish Shah's name was mentioned, saying that he would have to appear in court to testify, but still no one else was mentioned by name (and I did try to find out who these "others" were).  So I was quite surprised to suddenly find that all these other actors also were charged and had to appear for the final court decision.  Now, why hasn't this case been mentioned in connection with any of their names even once in the past eight years?  I've come to realize the general unrealiability and bias in the Bollywood media over the last four and a half years, but this is simply mindboggling. 

[jamesronsson]

Yeah, it was "kind of" known, sree, that the other four were involved at the beginning (it took me over two years of hearing/reading about this case to realize that Salman was not the only one involved even then), but I have never seen anyone else named with respect to the case itself.  Every time I saw Salman's name in the media, it was always followed by the obligatory list of all his wrong doings, and the black buck case was always listed as his problem alone.  I got the distinct impression that nobody else was charged (even if that didn't  make sense, as all of them participated in the hunt), as all the reporting on the case and trials always referred to "Salman Khan and others".  It's only a few months ago that Satish Shah's name was mentioned, saying that he would have to appear in court to testify, but still no one else was mentioned by name (and I did try to find out who these "others" were).  So I was quite surprised to suddenly find that all these other actors also were charged and had to appear for the final court decision.  Now, why hasn't this case been mentioned in connection with any of their names even once in the past eight years?  I've come to realize the general unrealiability and bias in the Bollywood media over the last four and a half years, but this is simply mindboggling. 

Sorry to spoil your argument, but until two weeks ago, I had no idea Salman was involved. The only name I'd heard in connection with this case was Saif's.

[wannabe]

Sorry to spoil your argument, but until two weeks ago, I had no idea Salman was involved. The only name I'd heard in connection with this case was Saif's.

   That's OK, I don't mind my argument being spoiled by facts. 

But where on earth did you hear Saif's name in connection with this?  Even when his father was arrested for the same charge last year, more reports were mentioning Salman's case (under "other people involved in similar charges), than noting that Saif himself was also involved.

I'm obviously hanging out at the wrong fora. 

[jamesronsson]

Sorry to spoil your argument, but until two weeks ago, I had no idea Salman was involved. The only name I'd heard in connection with this case was Saif's.

   That's OK, I don't mind my argument being spoiled by facts. 

But where on earth did you hear Saif's name in connection with this?  Even when his father was arrested for the same charge last year, more reports were mentioning Salman's case (under "other people involved in similar charges), than noting that Saif himself was also involved.

I'm obviously hanging out at the wrong fora. 

I have absolutely no idea, but I remember being surprised when I first heard Salman mentioned - I wondered when he could fit poaching in to his busy schedule of attempted eugenics. 

[lena]

Yeah, it was "kind of" known, sree, that the other four were involved at the beginning (it took me over two years of hearing/reading about this case to realize that Salman was not the only one involved even then), but I have never seen anyone else named with respect to the case itself.  Every time I saw Salman's name in the media, it was always followed by the obligatory list of all his wrong doings, and the black buck case was always listed as his problem alone.  I got the distinct impression that nobody else was charged (even if that didn't  make sense, as all of them participated in the hunt), as all the reporting on the case and trials always referred to "Salman Khan and others".  It's only a few months ago that Satish Shah's name was mentioned, saying that he would have to appear in court to testify, but still no one else was mentioned by name (and I did try to find out who these "others" were).  So I was quite surprised to suddenly find that all these other actors also were charged and had to appear for the final court decision.  Now, why hasn't this case been mentioned in connection with any of their names even once in the past eight years?  I've come to realize the general unrealiability and bias in the Bollywood media over the last four and a half years, but this is simply mindboggling. 

I have no background on this whatsoever besides what's been posted on this board, but I am wondering who it was who actually shot the buck. If it was Salman, then it would make sense that he's the one with the publicity, while the others were simply accessories, as it were. Though I do remember having heard about Saif and Tabu being involved.

[wannabe]

I have no background on this whatsoever besides what's been posted on this board, but I am wondering who it was who actually shot the buck. If it was Salman, then it would make sense that he's the one with the publicity, while the others were simply accessories, as it were. Though I do remember having heard about Saif and Tabu being involved.

Probably through me. 

What surprises me, as I said, is that they are now summoned to court for the final judgment, which indicates to me that they are also charged, which was not mentioned until now, and which would seem to necessitate at least as much publicity as the others charged.

[MrB]

Salman has been found guilty. no mention of anyone else in this BBC article though.

Bollywood star guilty of poaching 
 
Leading Bollywood star Salman Khan has been found guilty of poaching by a court in the Indian state of Rajasthan.

Khan, who has maintained his innocence, was found guilty of killing two blackbucks, a protected species of antelope, in 1998.

He has not yet been sentenced. Media reports say the actor could face a prison term.

Charges against Khan were pressed by the local Bishnoi community in Rajasthan where the killing took place.

The community worships the animal and protested when the incident was first reported in the local media.

Khan attended the court hearing in the Rajasthan city of Jodhpur, some 480km (300 miles) south-west of the capital Delhi.

Bollywood's 'bad boy'

Last month, Khan had voiced his frustration at the lengthy trail which has lasted seven years.

"The court can hang me. I am tired of such lengthy proceedings," Khan told the court.

The 40-year-old, who has a reputation for reckless behaviour, is one of Bollywood's top actors.

The poaching case is not the actor's first brush with the law. He is also facing trial in Mumbai (Bombay) in a 2002 hit-and-run case.

One person was killed and three others injured when Khan allegedly drove into a group of homeless people sleeping on a pavement.

Khan faces 10 charges, including causing death by negligent driving which carries two years in prison. He has pleaded not guilty on all counts.
 

[jhana]

Salman sentenced to one year imprisonment

Jodhpur, Feb. 17 (PTI): Bollywood star Salman Khan, was today sentenced to one year imprisonment and fined Rs 5,000 by a court here after finding him guilty of killing two chinkaras, a deer species, at Bhavad village in this Rajasthan district in 1998.

Seven other accused in the case, including comedian Satish Shah, were acquitted in the case by Chief Judicial Magistrate B K Jain.

The 40-year-old Salman was present when the judgement was pronounced in the packed court room. He was convicted under the Wildlife Protection Act. The sentence will come into effect after one month.

It was one of the four cases filed against the actor for poaching endangered animals.

Salman was charged with hunting chinkaras during the night of September 26-27, 1998 when he was in Jodhpur for the shooting of filmamaker Sooraj Barjatya's 'Hum Saath Saath Hain'.

Salman and some other actors starring in the film were booked by the Rajasthan Forest Department on charges of poaching of endangered animals.

[mrs. k]

Wahh!!!     

Oh, well - Salman should get together with Dick Cheney   

Saif's dad must be sweating bullets - wasn't he "arrested" for poaching black bucks just a year or so ago?   And the evidence against him (the carcasses and guns were found in his vehicle) is a lot stronger than the evidence against Salman in this case..it will be interesting to see how that works out....

[jhana]

Well we'll see how that one turns out.  Hope it doesn't go on as long as this one.

[mrs. k]

Salman news shocks Bollywood

Syed Firdaus Ashraf | February 17, 2006 18:03 IST

http://in.rediff.com/movies/2006/feb/17bolly.htm

Bollywood is in shock. The entire film fraternity is overwhelmed by the news that Salman Khan has been sentenced to a year's imprisonment for an eight-year old case.

Salman was sentenced after he allegedly killed two chinkaras, a kind of deer, while shooting for the film Hum Saath Saath Hain in 1998. He was one of the accused -- with other actors like Sonali Bendre, Saif Ali Khan, Tabu, Neelam and Satish Shah -- who participated in the hunting. The others have been acquitted.

"This is ridiculous. There were other actors too, but I don't understand why Salman alone was targeted. How come the others were acquitted while he alone was sentenced? Was it written on the bullet that killed those blackbuck that Salman had fired the shot?" wonders producer-director Ravi Chopra, who is directing Baabul with Salman, Amitabh Bachchan and Rani Mukherji.

The film is to be released in June, but Chopra believes it will now be postponed. "I think I will have to push it to a September release," he says.

Salman has found himself in worse situations in the past. He was sentenced to 17 days imprisonment in late 2002 after he allegedly killed a pavement dweller in a drunken driving case. This is a charge Salman denied, saying he was not driving the car at the time the accident occurred. He is already on bail for that case, currently in progress in the lower courts. 

Late last year, fed up of his victimisation and having to attend court hearings constantly, Salman stated in court: "If you want to punish me, do it as soon as possible, because I don't want to go through this ordeal all the time."

Another Salman director, Rumi Jaffery of God Tussi Great Ho, is also in shock. "I cannot believe this," he says, too taken aback to react. He is, however, confident that Salman will come out clean and that the higher courts will grant him bail. "In my heart, I know he is innocent. He will bounce back," says Jaffery. Ravi Chopra too is confident Salman will walk out clean.

Most critics had written off Salman after the drunken driving case, but his Tere Naam was one of the biggest hits of 2003. 2005 also saw him reign at the box office, with hits like No Entry, Maine Pyaar Kyon Kiya, and Lucky, among others. The actor is working on close to a dozen films in 2006 and 2007, and an amount of Rs 150 crore rides on him in the market. His big upcoming projects include Jaan-e-man, God Tussi Great Ho, Salaam-E-Ishq and his first Hollywood venture, Marigold.

"I don't understand one thing: Why is Salman always made a scapegoat? It is time we left him alone to lead a peaceful life," concludes Chopra.

[palacerani]

All the ones taking his side are directors whose films he's working in. I remember reading some time back that Saif was just sitting in the vehicle and not actually shooting (not yet at least). So maybe the others were there but hadn't started or hadn't killed any bucks yet.

Whatever the case I think whoever shot the bucks should be punished.

[mello_melon]

so salman khan is actually going to prison?

[palacerani]

so salman khan is actually going to prison?

They have a month in which time they can appeal. I'm sure they will.

[mello_melon]

so salman khan is actually going to prison?

They have a month in which time they can appeal. I'm sure they will.

has this ever happened before in bw - i mean, i huge star, in the middle of making films, being sent to prison?

[palacerani]

has this ever happened before in bw - i mean, i huge star, in the middle of making films, being sent to prison?

Sanjay Dutt was sent to prison for 10 odd years for his part in some Mafia bombings that took place in Bombay.

[NaijaChiqa]

Oh My God.  Are they trying to make an example out of him? I don't know much about this story but did he intentionally set out to hunt these animals or was it a mistake? Does the punishment fit the crime? 17days for killing a human, 1 year for killing endangered species? Unless it's a difference of one crime being intentional and the other not? 

[palacerani]

Here's an article about who else has been imprisoned.

Stars in jail: Nothing new

Salman Khan has been sentenced to a year in prison for killing two blackbucks.

It's not a first for the Hindi movie industry; Bollywood is familiar with actors doing jail time.

Sanjay Dutt was arrested under the Terrorist and Disruptive Activities Prevention Act in connection with the 1993 serial bomb blasts in Mumbai.

His arrest did not affect his box-office appeal, and his film Khalnayak -- which released the same year -- went on to become a huge hit.

But when Sanjay was rearrested under TADA in 1994 and re-released once again, producers would not touch him. For a while, he had to be content with low-budget films. He was almost written off because of his alleged involvement with the underworld. But things changed for him with the release of Vaastav (1999).

Another actor who did prison time was Fardeen Khan, who was arrested for possesion of cocaine in 2001. Fardeen's recent film No Entry was the biggest Bollywood grosser last year.

Salman, who also starred in No Entry, has had even better luck at the box office.

In 2002, he was involved in an alleged hit-and-run case in Mumbai. Though he denied the charge, he was sentenced to 17 days in imprisonment, and later released on bail.

His next release was Tere Naam, a huge hit. Even after his alleged conversations with his then girlfriend Aishwarya Rai were made public, and his purported underworld connections splashed across newspaper front pages, Salman's star status stayed intact.

His films No Entry and Maine Pyaar Kyun Kiya were hits last year.

Fans, it seems, turn a blind eye to their heroes' brushes with the law.


http://www.rediff.com/movies/2006/feb/17stars.htm

[Krishnan]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4723184.stm


Bollywood star guilty of poaching
Salman Khan
Salman Khan is one of India's biggest stars
Leading Bollywood star Salman Khan has been sentenced to a year in prison after being found guilty of poaching.

Khan was found guilty of killing two blackbucks, a protected species of antelope, in the western state of Rajasthan in 1998.

A lawyer for Salman Khan says his client was "falsely implicated " and will appeal against the conviction.

A BBC correspondent says the actor, who has also been fined 5,000 rupees ($111) has a month's time to appeal.

Seven other people were acquitted over the case.

Charges against Khan were pressed by the local Bishnoi community in Rajasthan where the killing took place.

   
It's disturbing. It's disappointing
Dipesh Mehta
Salman Khan's lawyer

The community, many of whose members were present outside the court, worships the animal and have welcomed Khan's conviction.

Khan attended the court hearing in the Rajasthan city of Jodhpur, some 480km (300 miles) south-west of the capital Delhi.

"It's disturbing, it's disappointing," a lawyer for the actor, Dipesh Mehta, told the BBC.

"[Khan] was mentally prepared for it, we were ready for any eventuality."

Fans of the Bollywood star had gathered outside the court hoping to catch a glimpse of the star and raised slogans in his favour before they were dispersed by the police.

Bollywood's 'bad boy'

Last month, Khan had voiced his frustration at the lengthy trail which has lasted seven years.

"The court can hang me. I am tired of such lengthy proceedings," Khan told the court.

The 40-year-old, who has a reputation for reckless behaviour, is one of Bollywood's top actors.

The poaching case is not the actor's first brush with the law. He is also facing trial in Mumbai (Bombay) in a 2002 hit-and-run case.

One person was killed and three others injured when Khan allegedly drove into a group of homeless people sleeping on a pavement.

Khan faces 10 charges, including causing death by negligent driving which carries two years in prison. He has pleaded not guilty on all counts.

[mello_melon]

Another actor who did prison time was Fardeen Khan, who was arrested for possesion of cocaine in 2001. Fardeen's recent film No Entry was the biggest Bollywood grosser last year.

how long was fardeen in prison for?

[prican411]

Had Salman shot a 78 year old man (ala Dick Cheney), he would have gotten less time

http://in.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=entertainmentNews&storyID=2006-02-17T201748Z_01_NOOTR_RTRJONC_0_India-237166-1.xml

JAIPUR, India (Reuters) - Bollywood film star, Salman Khan, has been sentenced to a year in jail for killing two rare deer, his lawyer said on Friday.

A court in Rajasthan, where Khan shot the black buck, a protected species, in 1998 also slapped a fine of 5,000 rupees ($112.5) on the star, known for his wild tantrums.

Khan's lawyer, Hastimal Saraswat, said his client had indicated he would appeal the ruling to a higher court and he was freed on a one-month bond.

The black buck is revered as a sacred animal by the people of Rajasthan. It was once common in northern and central India.

Witnesses said Khan appeared sombre as he left the court to chants from his fans of "Long live, Salman Khan!"

Hugely popular, Khan usually plays the role of a macho romeo in Bollywood's trademark song-and-dance films.

[2hapyft]

Oh My God.  Are they trying to make an example out of him? I don't know much about this story but did he intentionally set out to hunt these animals or was it a mistake? Does the punishment fit the crime? 17days for killing a human, 1 year for killing endangered species? Unless it's a difference of one crime being intentional and the other not? 

I see it quite often here in the states also, people getting stiffer sentences for harming an animal, endangered or not.

mrsk. I tried pming you and couldn't. Thanks you so much for the cd and information.  

  poor Salman! I was expecting him to do time for either this or the other trial.  

[Prem Rogue]

Sanjay Dutt was sent to prison for 10 odd years for his part in some Mafia bombings that took place in Bombay.

Ten years?  I thought he was only in prison for a few months.  Or was he sentenced to 10 years but got out on parole?  Do they have parole in India?